Contents
1. Africa:
PMI's Targeting of Youth (Rachel Kitonyo - Kenya)
2. Mexico: Marlboro MX Beat: PMI's Illegal Concert Sponsorship
and Promotion (Jonathan Romo - Mexico)
3. Indonesia: Targeting Youth Through Concert Sponsorship (Ben
Ross - USA/Dina Kania - Indonesia)
4. Philippines/Argentina/World: PMI's Internet Promotions
(Joshua Trope - USA)
5. Indonesia/World: PMI's Targeting of Youth (Ashley Herrin
- USA)
6. Egypt: Health Burden of PMI's Expansion in the Region
(Anna White - USA/HebatALLAH Ebrahim - Egypt)
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Note: the
numbers next to the names below correlate to the time in the webcast,
which can be accessed until June 4, 2009
1)
PMI's Targeting of Youth in Africa
Rachel Kitonyo (1:03:53):
Good morning. My name is Rachel Kitonyo, I come from Kenya I represent
the African children who you are marketing to and hooking onto your
deadly product and I represent African governments that are spending
money dealing with the death, disability and disease PMI's products
causing in Africa You have said that you do not market to children
Right now the government of Nigeria has filed a suit against you
and against BAT Nigeria [accusing you of] marketing to children
through concerts that are attractive to people under 18 and through
the use of billboards. My question to you is why are you using unethical
and illegal marketing targeted at young people that you cannot use
in the US to market to Africans? Africa cannot afford to take care
of the tobacco epidemic. We are already suffering from HIV/AIDS,
malaria and Tuberculosis. Why are you marketing to children in Africa?
Camilleri's response
(1:04:54):
Well, thank you for coming. The simple fact is we don't market to
children. I'm glad you come from Kenya. We don't sell cigarettes
in Kenya. We haven't sold cigarettes in Kenya for quite a long time.
In fact, we barely sell cigarettes in all of East Africa. If I recall
the numbers, in 2008, we sold less than 50 million cigarettes in
the whole of East Africa, principally only in Djibouti. With regards
to Nigeria, we are also not present in Nigeria. We have not been
present in Nigeria for more than a decade. So, I think it is a bit
astounding to me to listen to you complaining about our marketing,
in a lot of markets where we're not actually even present. Having
said that, more importantly, we don't market to children. There
is always a tension between our desire to market to adult consumers
and adult smokers while protecting youth. And, I think it is a fine
line, but it is a line that we tread very carefully and I think
over the years we have made significant progress. Anyway, thank
you for coming all the way from Nairobi.
Note:
Camilleri's statement that PMI has not been in Nigeria for more
than a decade is FALSE. Here's a photo of a Marlboro
billboard in Nigeria (~March 2005). And further information
about PMI in Nigeria is contained in Tosin
Orogun's statement at the 2005 Altria meeting, at which Camilleri
acknowledged that PMI had a presence in the country.
2)
Marlboro MX Beat: PMI's Illegal Concert Sponsorship and Promotion
in Mexico
Jonathan Romo (1:06:24):
My name is Jonathan Romo. I work for the International Union Against
Tuberculosis and Lung Disease and I'm coming from Mexico - I could
come here (pause) -- and well Philip Morris has been promoting Marlboro
cigarettes the past 6 years through the sponsorship of a series
of musical events called Marlboro MX Beat In a clear strategy to
increase sales and gain more consumers, MX Beat has effectively
become a festival targeted to youth. The new 2008 Mexican general
tobacco control law makes it illegal to use any form of sponsorship
as a means of placing the elements of any branded tobacco product.
Through the purpose of this event, PM ignored this legislation,
placing illegal advertising in magazines, some of them even free
publications and sent a lot of information and invitations to popular
music blogs for youth in order to publicize the event freely. These
MX Beat concerts violated the law as the ads for the shows carried
the Marlboro name and colors. [Example
displayed] The new legislation in Mexico renders these series
of events not only irresponsible, but illegal. So, when will you
start to behave as a responsible corporate citizen you claim you
are, and start obeying the Mexican law?
Camilleri's response
(1:07:45):
Well, you would be shocked to know that we are obeying the Mexican
law. Let's be very clear about this. The tobacco control law is
under the purview of the Ministry of Health in Mexico. The agency
responsible for assurance compliance on the regulation of that legislation
I believe it's called the Federal Commission of Protection Against
Health Risks. Those musical events, that you just referred to, were
approved by that Commission. Furthermore, that Commission sent two
of its representatives to the events and to ensure compliance with
a commitment related to the event and they also approved and authorized
us in terms of adhering to the compliance of the program. So I think
that, again we continually get attacked on the basis of facts that
are totally erroneous. So I would encourage you to get the facts
right and I think it is important for all shareholders here, rather
than the minority in this room, to know that we are doing everything
we can to avoid marketing to children. We are serious about it.
We get attacked unfairly. Let me give you one example; because it's
part of the list that the tobacco advocates try to render the issue
even more emotional. One of the attacks, we have, is that we also
do music promotions in Pakistan and that supposedly we have branded
mobile cinemas in Pakistan. Well, the facts are that those branded
mobile events used to be run by Lakson before we purchased them
back in 2007. We purchased them, we stopped the branding of those
events, both of the Diplomat and Mobile gold brand, and more recently
we stopped the whole promotion. So when I say that people should
encourage us to go to emerging markets that's a perfect example
of what we can do when we are there. Thank you for coming from Mexico
and thank you for your question.
Notes:
Previously in the meeting, Camilleri said, "
it is my
privilege to welcome our board of directors, who are all in attendance,
and seated in the front rows, with the exception of Carlos Slim
Helu, who given the current situation in Mexico, understandably
was unable to come to today's meeting." For more information
about Marlboro MX Beat, see: http://tobaccofreecenter.org/node/369
.
Also, Camilleri's
claim that PMI stopped the branding of Lakson's mobile cinema promotions
upon acquiring the company is FALSE. The source of the example has
confirmed that the promotion took place in March 2008, 1 kilometer
from his house, and that similar ads were up in area shops through
December 2008. The ad itself mentions March 2008, which is a year
after PMI acquired Lakson Tobacco, and the promotion is clearly
branded. See
for yourself
Targeting Indonesian Youth through
Concert Sponsorship
Ben Ross (1:15:18):
Good morning. My name is Ben Ross and I am an advocate through the
Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, and I'm 18 years old, as well as
being the Chair of REBEL, New Jersey's anti-tobacco movement. I
am one of dozens of youth advocates inside and outside today's meeting
who are participating in an international day of action to counter
your company's global expansion.
I would like to make
a statement on behalf of Dina Kania, of the National Commission
for Child Protection in Indonesia, who you may recall from the 2007
Altria meeting and who, like you, was profiled in the recent Business
Week article about your company. She and I are both members of the
Global Youth Action on Tobacco Network. Here is Dina's message to
you today:
Big applause to this
company's contribution to my country achieving the third highest
smoking prevalence in the world!
You claimed that your
company supports strong tobacco control regulation in Indonesia.
But the reality shows the opposite. In the absence of regulation,
Phillip Morris International - through Sampoerna - continues its
aggressive marketing targeting to youth. Let's recall the Marlboro
Filter Rocks in Orchestra concert series in Indonesia that just
happened on January. Even though the concert was said to be limited
to people age 18 and above, the evidence proved that children attended
the concert and they were heavily exposed to Marlboro advertisements
and promotions there. A more recent example is A Mild Live Wanted,
a nationwide band competition. At the competition in Jakarta on
April 25th, I spotted many teenagers below 18 years old despite
the supposed verification procedures that you claimed had been undertaken.
[Copies of the following photos were displayed: A
Mild Live Wanted, Marlboro
Rocks in Orchestra ]
And when we are striving for tobacco advertising ban on television
through Constitutional Court, your company appeared as one of the
parties that STRONGLY OPPOSED this ban. Is this what you consider
"SUPPORTIVE?"
My message is one: STOP
EXPLOTING my country - STOP TARGETING INDONESIAN YOUTH!
Camilleri's response
(1:17:28):
Again, the facts would belie the statements. Let me start with the
constitutional court to start with. Contrary to what you just said,
we did not fight against or for advertising freedoms in Indonesia.
We actually weren't even present in the court. The Association of
Indonesian Advertisers was called to the court to give their opinion.
The chairman of that association happens to work for Sampoerna.
She was there representing the Indonesian association, not Sampoerna.
Furthermore, and you
can read the records of the meeting, she actually called for a comprehensive
regulation of tobacco. But it would be a mistake to focus solely
on television. Consistent with what we've always said everywhere
in the world: we want fair, full, coherent, consistent, and enforceable
regulation. If you do it piecemeal it doesn't work.
You'll be happy to know
that since we've been there, we've been trying to force the government
to come up with regulations in terms of whole of marketing products
in Indonesia. And you'll probably be delighted to know that a few
weeks ago the President appointed a task force to come up with tobacco
control legislation, in line with what we've been pushing for ever
since we've been there.
And I would go on to
venture, had we not been in Indonesia, we would not be were we are
today. As to the attacks on the concerts, I think that all the reports
that we received, that the filters we have in place to ensure that
adult smokers are the ones who attend those concerts and have to
show identification that is sponsored by governments, and the Indonesian
government, we do not have children attend those concerts. [pause,
looks at photo] I can't see a thing there. You know, you bring photos,
it's very important for shareholders to understand this as to sometimes
the scrutiny that's required and Ms. Mulvey will remember this and
Ms. White will too as they were both there [in 2007], a lady from
South Africa came and bandied around photographs just the way you
have now of supposedly retail outfits in South Africa showing all
sorts of Marlboro branding. We were surprised to see those photos,
because they were not in compliance with what we do in South Africa.
We look for those stores, we had the whole sales force in South
Africa look for those stores. We asked her to tell us exactly where
those stores were and she refused to tell us. So that's something
about the photographs you've given us.
Cigarette Promotions via the Internet
Joshua Trope (1:21:07):
Hi. I am Joshua Trope. I am 19 years old and part of the Lawton/Ft.
Sill Students Working Against Tobacco in Oklahoma. I am here to
represent not only everyone involved in an International Day of
Action, but I am also here on behalf of all the voices you have
silenced. Not only have you destroyed lives and ruined families,
but you still continue to prey on unsuspecting youth through deceptive
marketing practices. But your Reign of Terror does not end there.
Another tool has become your pawn in the game of global conquest:
the Internet. Recently promotions to obtain free concert tickets,
such as the Eraserheads in the Philippines to receiving free prizes
from "The Auction" in Argentina have made your intentions
loud and clear to market to youth. Websites that youth frequently
visit, such as Facebook, have "groups" promoting your
product and gaining thousands of "fans" everyday. The
Internet is a priceless tool that youth use everyday for school
and recreational purposes, but here you are, using it as a Weapon
of Mass Destruction. When will you delete the webpages of profit
that bury millions of children every year?
Camilleri's response
(1:22:07):
Well, a lot of the websites you refer to and in fact, that you have
in your press releases have nothing to do with us. We can't control
what's on Facebook and we can't control quite often others who use
our brands on the web. What we do try to do is fight to protect
our trademarks and get them to take those brands off their independent
websites. And honestly we've had mixed success at that. With regards
to our own websites, there is a pretty strict way of accessing those
websites and they're very restricted to adults and it is not easy
unless you are an adult and you have - specifically to the example
you gave in Argentina - the equivalent of a social security number
that we can check with government records to verify your age. Without
that, you can't get in. So again, there is tension, but we are doing
everything we can to ensure that adults and adult smokers are the
only ones who can access those websites. So again, please try to
get your facts right. Thank you.
Note:
For more information on the examples cited: "The
Auction" (Argentina);
Eraserheads
concert (Philippines); Facebook: The A-volution
facebook page appears to be officially connected to the www.a-volution.com
website for the A Volution brand in Indonesia.
PMI's
Targeting of Youth;
Moment of Silence for the 5.4 Million Killed by Tobacco Annually
Ashley Herrin (1:30:01):
Good morning. My name is Ashley Herrin. I'm here as a part of the
International Day of Action. I represent the Students Working Against
Tobacco and the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids.
The World Health Organization
estimates that 5.4 million people will die this year from tobacco
use and you acknowledge yourself in your recent article in Business
Week that you sell a quote 'very harmful product' one that you advise
your children not to use, but one that you market to children globally
- although we'll argue about that I'm sure. I work with youth and
I hope to empower them to see through your marketing tactics. My
job is to make sure that youth don't become the replacement smokers
that you need to increase your profit margins when other tobacco
users die. And that can be a really difficult job, but what frustrates
me more is that while I am trying to save young people you argue
that activists like myself are trying to quote "demonize the
tobacco industry" but it's really your bad acts that create
the outcry towards your industry, like trying to associate popular
youth artists like Alicia Keyes with your deadly products by promoting
their concerts which I believe are clearly geared toward youth.
But there are other things
that I'm concerned about. Frequently you take the position that
you are not after youth as new tobacco users, like you said earlier
in this meeting, but rather that you're trying to encourage tobacco
users to use your product over another company's product, but I
don't think flashy rock concerts persuade long time tobacco users
to change their brand. In fact, I really feel these events capture
the attention of youth who are then persuaded to try your product
for the first time and then consequently go on to suffer a life
time of addiction.
You mention in your recent
Business Week article that you don't want Marlboro to become known
as 'dad's smoke' instead, you said you want it to be like Apple
or Nike and I think that that's really interesting but as we both
know youth are the demographic that's plugged into those brands,
which is exactly what you want, you want to target youth, but again
you're going to deny that.
But my favorite part
of your Business Week article was that even if you shut down all
the factories tomorrow people weren't going to stop smoking. So
I was thinking about asking you about how about instead of shutting
all your factories, you decide to spend just one day not marketing
towards youth. But then again, you're going to say that that's not
something you do. So I thought, instead of asking you a question
and maybe you paying me the disrespect that I kind of feel like
you gave some of the other people who asked questions, you all join
me in a moment of respectful silence for the 5.4 million people
who are going to die this year from tobacco use. So if you could
please join me in a moment of silence to recognizing those people
who have passed, I would appreciate it. 1:32:46 -1:33:45
Camilleri's response
(1:33:45):
Thank you
The
Added Health Burden of PMI's Success in Egypt
Anna White (1:47:36):
My name is Anna White. I'm with Essential Action and the Global
Youth Action on Tobacco network. I'm here today to read a statement
on behalf of HebatALLAH Ebrahim of the Egyptian Medical Students
Association. She states:
While we totally understand
the interest of stockholders in increasing the price of their shares,
we also understand, as medical students and health activists, the
cost of life. The Philip Morris annual report says the company's
cigarette shipment increased in 2008 by 4.4% into our region. This
denotes Philip Morris' success in promoting its product, as well
as indicates an added health burden in an already struggling region.
We do urge shareholders to study their target market. It is now
agreed upon that human resources, in this age of knowledge, are
the real source of prosperity. Young people in specific are the
wealth of nations -- the wealth of humanity. Nevertheless, they
can be susceptible to misleading advertising which touts adventure
and self esteem, which unfortunately remains the promised endowment
of Philip Morris brands. At the Egyptian Medical Students' Association,
we urge shareholders at Philip Morris to study once again the real
target market, and weigh the earnings per share to the loss of life
and health per cigarette smoked, before voting to increase [sales].
Please don't kill our youth, to feed yours.
Camilleri's response
(1:49:06):
Well thank you for your comment
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